ASCRC Minutes 1/31/06

 

Members Present: J. Campana, S. Derry J. Eglin, V. Hedquist, C. Henderson, C. Johnston, J. Luckowski, D. McCormick, V. Pavlish D. Potts, M. Roscoe,  H. Thompson

Members Absent/Excused: A. Szalda-Petree

Ex-Officio Present: L. Carlyon, M. Hoell, A.Walker-Andrews

 

Guests: Terry Berkhouse-Director Internship Services, Linda Frey-ECOS member, Belva Jones-Chair Information Systems and Technology, Rob VanDriest-Business Administration Internship Director

 

Chair Luckowski called the meeting to order at 2:14p.m.

 

The minutes from 12/6/05 were postponed and later approved.

 

Old Business:

Internship Issues

Chair Luckowski explained that ASCRC is considering setting a credit cap for internship credits allowed towards a baccalaureate degree as well as mandating the credit/no credit grading option for internships.  A communication was sent to department chairs requesting comments and/or an invitation to today’s discussion.  The comments were distributed to members and guests for consideration.

 

Professor Van Driest said that he had researched how other institutions handle the issue in preparation for the meeting.  The results are quite varied.  Some institutions have policies in place.  Most institutions allow some internship credits to count towards graduation (1-12) and one allowed 15.  Hours expected per credit varied as well, from 40-100 hours per credit. UM’s School of Business requires 50 hours per credit. Grading and assessment were also quite varied.

In reviewing the comments from other departments, he does not feel the School of Business needs any adjustment to their procedures. SOBA allows 9 credits of internships to count toward graduation. Nine out of 120 credits are not going to significantly impact a student’s GPA.  More and more businesses are using the internships for recruiting and assessing entry level talent.  He predicts the average grade for an internship will go down with the implementation of plus/minus grading.

Professor Jones commented that the Information Systems and Technology program recently added a three credit internship as a requirement for the major.  She argued that the breadth of experience afforded to the students in a real work environment provides for a richer experience in the classroom.  Her department prefers the letter grade because it provides incentive for the student and the employer to take the work seriously.   The employer evaluation of the student is critical to the assessment of the program.  It provides the opportunity to review whether the program is successful in preparing students for the profession.  After students are in the workforce for a few years the opportunity for feedback diminishes.  She said that the employer has an opportunity to weigh in on grading, but the academic components (papers and projects) are evaluated by the faculty member who assigns the student’s grade. 

 

Most of the internships are paid.   Sixty-five to seventy-five percent of all x98 internships are paid.  The School of Business had a total of four volunteer internships this semester.  In these cases the students were willing to volunteer for the unique experience.  Historically the School of Business found that the interns are underutilized if they are not paid.  There is also a consideration of workman’s compensation insurance for volunteers.

Professor Frey expressed concern that students not be graded from the outside (employers) who are not qualified to award grades on academic performance.  She suggests the possibility of an internship credit/no credit course coupled with a 395 graded credit for the academic work.  She surveyed the top ten institutions and found that internships were encouraged but not required and not allowed for academic credit.  Where used, they were not graded using a letter grade.

 

Director Berkhouse said the employer’s rating is only used as information.  The grading decision is made by the faculty member.  There is no formal statement of how the employer’s input will be weighted in the grading decision.  Informally the employer’s ratings range from good to very good. The School of Business tried the credit/no credit grading and found that there was a different dynamic.  In a business environment it is important to establish an employer- employee relationship for real world experience in contrast to volunteer or student.

Several ideas were considered to improve the process.  Internship credits could be taken in a sequence to flag when a student is in a third or fourth internship.  But it was pointed out that only a small number of students are taking 7.5 or more internship credits. The grading option for internships could be defaulted to credit/no credit, then if a structure is in place to assess the student’s academic performance, the option can be changed to traditional grading.  A more structured evaluation policy could be implemented.

 

Student member Pavlish commented that paid internships have a monetary incentive and shouldn’t be given a letter grade.  He feels similarly about lab credits.  The experience is to reinforce or practice academic instruction.

The inequality inherent in paid internships verses volunteer internships is beyond the scope of the committee. The role of the modern university has evolved to training specialists rather than educating generalists. Programs have different needs and ASCRC should not be in the business of micromanaging, but should focus on what it can address, such as how many non academic credits should be allowed for a degree.    

Director Berkhouse requested that if the committee is interested in standardizing the title of all X98 courses, Internship Services preference would be for “Internship.”

The guests departed and ASCRC continued its deliberations.  Associate Registrar Carlyon indicated that there is a mechanism for setting the default grading option to credit/no credit and changing the option to letter grade is fairly easy.  Next week the committee will try to reach agreement on whether to set a credit cap and regulate the grading option.

 

Declaration of a major
Just prior to the break, the committee had been asked to considered requiring students to declare a major at 30 credits or after two semesters.  The reason for the change is to increase student retention.  Little discussion took place; some have suggested that students declare a major at 45 credits or three semesters.  The committee will try to reach agreement on the issue next week. 

 

New Business:

§    Chair-Elect Johnston announced that he has taken a new job in Arizona and will be leaving at the end of the spring semester.  Chair Luckowski asked members to consider volunteering for appointment as a new chair-elect, before the end of Spring 2006 semester.  The chair-elect serves on the Graduation Appeals Committee and to help give that person experience on the committee as soon as possible, a new chair-elect must be identified soon.

§    Approximately 70% of the materials for the general education- ethics and science reviews are in and posted.  Camie is conducting follow-up emails and calls. During the writing course review it was helpful to send a final letter to administrators indicating that courses would lose the designation if materials were not received by a deadline.  The committee selected February 10th as the final deadline to allow time to complete the review prior to the March Faculty Senate meeting. Chair Luckowski will draft a letter to be distributed to chairs tomorrow.

§    The chair of Radio-TV would like the committee to reconsider the proposal for the Preparation for an Internship course because Journalism had a similar course approved last year.  Camie will distribute the proposals to the committee for review at next week’s meeting.

§    There are a few late curriculum items that seem to have adequate justification for late processing.   The subcommittees will be informed of these for action next week.

 

Committee Reports:

 

§    The Writing Committee’s first meeting of the semester is Thursday, February 9, at 9:00a.m.  It will consider the Provost’s Writing Committee’s proposed increase writing course criteria and have a broader discussion about writing expectations on campus.

§    The General Education Committee has a new chair, Steven Gaskill- Health and Human Performance and a temporary committee member from the Social Sciences, Louis Hayes- Political Science.  The committee will be working on various models in workgroups next week in preparation for bringing them forward to ASCRC.

 

 The meeting was adjourned at 3:50p.m.