
Meeting,
Approved
4/8/04
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Members Present: |
D. Beck, T. Bedunah, N. Browning-Bradley,
C. Bruneau, G. Burns, J. Carter, J. Crepeau, D. Dalenberg, T. Deluca,
S. Derry, D. Doyle, E. Edlund, P. Fandozzi, R. Field, C. Gajdosik, L. Gillison, S. Greymorning,
L. Hayes, T. Herron, W. Holben,
C. Johnston, R. Judd, S. Kalm, K. Kane, C. Knight, B. Knowles, C. Krussel, R. Ledbetter, M. |
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Members Excused: |
E. Ametsbichler, M.
Bachmann, C. Brewer F. Brown G. Cobbs, D. Fillmore N. Hinman, J. Gritzner, J.
Laskin, J. McNulty, B. Reider, G. Smith, S. Stiff, H. Thompson, C. Winkler |
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Members Absent: |
K. Canty, R. Chacon, L. Dent,
P. Dietrich, J. Sears |
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Ex-Officio Present: |
Provost Muir, Vice
President Duringer, Associate Provosts Walker-Andrews and Staub,
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Guests: |
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Chair Knowles called the
meeting to order at
Chair Knowles announced a
change in the agenda. The Review of Centers
will be acted on prior to committee reports as a courtesy to the guests, the
Centers Directors.
Chair Knowles called roll in
the absence of Registrar Bain. A quorum was present.
The minutes were amended and
approved (motion by Senator Monsos, seconded by Senator Winkler).
Communications:
Provost Lois Muir
Provost Muir announced that
another candidate will be brought in for consideration for the Dean of the
The Legislative Audit Division
prompted a performance audit of transfer credits to the Montana University System. There has been some unhappiness from students.
The key areas to be reviewed are Nursing, Business, and Engineering. It will be an interesting audit.
All of the Level I and Level
II program proposals approved by the Faculty Senate are on the agenda for the
March Board of Regents meeting for final approval. She is hopeful that they will be
approved. There will be several faculty there in case the Regents have questions.
Vice President for Administration and Finance Robert Duringer
VP Duringer indicated that
he did not have any additional news to add to the memo that was sent by President
Dennison regarding the budget deficit in Athletics. This is not the first time Athletics has been
down this road. When he first started at
the university a reduction plan was put in place to correct budget problems. There is hope that this time with some
structural changes the Athletics Department will do better going forward. It seems that the more successful a program
is, the more grandiose the idea of how it should exist. When you win you want
to win more.
Senator Beck asked about President
Dennison’s assurance that none of the debt would be paid out of student
funds, but yet there is a proposed fee increase.
VP Duringer responded that
there are two problems. The accounting
error problem of $380,000 added to the $500,000 in over budget operating
expenses total about a million dollar deficit for the year, and even with
increased waiver accounts there is a structural deficit problem. The department does not seem to have enough
money to operate. The administration is not
going to ask for students to help. There
will be a major increase in ticket prices next year, an additional home game
will be scheduled which will generate between $200-300 thousand. There will be effort
to secure additional corporate sponsorship, and consideration of the
departmental vehicle situation. If successful, over the next three years
Athletics can work down the deficit. If
the structural problems are not fixed, the department will not be successful at
reducing the deficit.
The administration has been
as responsible as possible to students to minimize tuition increases and keep
the fee schedule as low as possible.
Senator Ledbetter mentioned
the Kaimin article that indicated
VP Duringer responded that
The University’s mandatory
fees are like condo fees. It’s necessary
to pay for what we are--a mid-sized university. Students have asked for the
Senator Mayer: How much of
structural deficit is caused by the renovation of the
VP Duringer indicated that
originally there were grandiose plans to have boxes and bars in the
ASUM President Aaron Flint
ASUM President Flint pointed
out that ASUM is the reason there are so many successful concerts at the
There is a Parliamentary Procedure seminar on Saturday, March 13th
from
The Board of Regents meeting
this month will be March madness. The
students will present a congressional delegation letter on financial aid. The message has broad based support. There are talks throughout student government
regarding drug regulations and the MontPIRG fee issue
is coming up.
Over spring break there will
be visits supporting higher education to Roundup,
Please get involved if you
are interested in the Athletic fee issue.
The fee affects the bottom line of support for athletic programs. The proposal is to double the fee. The outcome will be that students will be
paying the same amount as season ticket holders but 10,000 of them will not be
going to the games.
Some universities combine
the recreation and athletic fee. Also
there are some sources of revenue that have not been evaluated. The tailgating practice at
Chair Knowles asked if
Are students paying a mandatory
fee for MontPIRG?
In response to how the
change will affect the financial fees,
Chair Knowles report:
Commissioner Stearns asked Chair
Knowles to recommend faculty members to serve on the Athletic Department Investigation
Committee. The member has been selected;
however there is a press embargo until
Regent Mercer met with
Regent Roehm
instigated a statewide salary survey of faculty and staff. He wants to learn if pay levels and salaries are
equitable, competitive, compressed, or comparable. There will be a discussion at
the Board of Regents meeting in Dillon.
It’s nice to know that one of Regents cares about compensation and its
impact on retaining good faculty and staff.
Chair Knowles announced that
the electronic ballot for voting in the Faculty Senate Elections will be sent
March 22. Faculty have
until March 26th to vote. There
have been a few glitches to work through in the new process. Several faculty
received duplicate messages for the opt-in/opt out process and some systems are
not able to access the secure site. If
you are having difficulty you can go to a different computer and access the
site with the identification number provided in the email or you can respond to
the email and the office can opt-in or opt-out for you. There is also a document that provides some
trouble shooting suggestions available in the reminder email that was sent.
Chair Knowles encouraged
senators to go to this weekend’s Big Sky Conference Women’s Basketball
Tournament in
New Business:
Review of Centers,
Four Centers were
reviewed. The workgroup was satisfied
with the reports for the most part and asked questions of the directors for
clarification on some points. The forms
created last year served as a framework for the review.
There was a question
regarding process. What would happen if
the Senate did not recommend continuance?
Provost Muir reminded the
Senate that the process is for the Faculty Senate to evaluate the reports and
make a recommendation to the Provost.
The Provost then makes a recommendation to the President.
The directors of the Centers
were in attendance and stood as introduced.
Broadcast
Media Center Director William Marcus
Center
for Work-Based Learning (Internship Services) Director Terry Berkhouse
Clinical
Psychology Center Director John Klocek
University
of Montana College of Forestry and Conservation Wilderness Institute Acting
Director Laurie Yung
There were no
questions. The Centers were unanimously
approved.
Committee Reports
Senator
Ledbetter asked if the change would exclude any of the current courses. Chair
Hayes:
Senator
Krussel stated that mathematics classes don’t have a complexity comparable to a
spoken language. The Mathematics Department
does not object to comparability and is not opposed to the spirit of the
motion. They are not sure a comparison can
be made of a math course and a language course.
Senator
Schantz asked how this would be defined and by what criteria would
Chair
Hayes: The additional language was developed because the existing language is
so nebulous. The intent was to add something
to give it more tests to establish that the course possess some symbolic rigor.
Senator
Johnson pointed out that the statement is more of a suggestion or a hint
because of the wording “should have.”
Chair
Hayes indicated that a very simple, small system
would satisfy the current language. Even
though the revised language is rather vague it sets a standard.
Senator
Chair
Hayes stated that there were courses purposed that met the spirit of the
requirement but lacked rigor.
Senator
Judd suggested that the statement be folded into the first paragraph.
Senator Gajdosik suggested that a definition be created for each type of course (math,
music, and foreign language).
Senator
Holben reminded the Senate to be careful not to disqualify courses for general education
by having too many prerequisites.
Perhaps
a qualifying statement should indicate rigor such as these courses (examples)
that are currently accepted.
Senator
Cobbs indicated there are Geometry courses in the Elementary
Chair
Hayes stated that there needs to be something to measure against. The measure would be conducted by comparing.
Senator
Johnson suggested changing the “should” to “must.”
Senator
Crepeau clarified that
Senator
Mayer asked a point of information whether anyone knew anything about the
proposed changes to general education.
Chair
Knowles replied that the Provost will bring the information to the senate on April
8th.
Senator
Crepeau moved to postpone the issue until the May meeting (seconded by Senator Johnson).
Senator
Eglin inquired whether the May meeting was devoted to the reorganization of the
Senate.
Chair
Knowles responded that the old Senate sets until the end of the meeting, when
the new senators are seated. Business
has been conducted at the May meeting for the last couple of years.
Senator
Mueller moved the previous question. It
was not seconded and failed.
Chair
Knowles suggested the Senate should be given the opportunity to hear the report
on general education prior to voting on the issue.
The
motion to postpone was approved with one opposing vote.
·
The resolution
for revised grading option language was drafted by
Another
dimension is that faculty members are free to do what ever they please. There is no such thing as the grading police. Some can choose to allow the grading option
others don’t. Problem number two is one of semantics. The language used should be precise and agreed
upon. The term pass means satisfactory
completion of a course. We define D as
poor, so how can poor be satisfactory.
Poor should not be passing.
The
third issue is one of standards.
Therefore,
Senator
Ledbetter asked for clarification that the intent of the motion was not to
allow the option for general education courses. Chair Hayes stated that the
option can not be used for the course submitted to meet the student’s general
education requirement.
Senator
Crepeau indicated that his personal issue is satisfied with the exclusion of general
education courses. Currently students
only look at half of the cost benefit analysis.
With traditional letter grading they have incentive to do better work.
Senator
Edlund stated that the student who got the credit for D paid the price in the
grade point average.
Senator
Greymorning indicated that some institutions assign letter grades regardless if
the course is taken as pass /no pass or traditional. C is equivalent to pass and D is no pass and
the whole issue does not exist
Senator
Schantz is mystified that the university is talking about quality and this
option. When he was in school when you
wanted to take a course and not have it impact your GPA you took it as audit.
A
visiting ASUM senator, Vincent Pavlish, stated that students
still accept some risk if they plan to go to graduate school.
Chair
Hayes indicated that this is mitigated by the fact that major departments have
the authority to disallow the option.
Senator
Schantz stated that students can take the course over.
Senator
Johnson clarified that
It
was asked how extensive the problem was.
Senator
Ledbetter has a large lower division general education lecture class that is
the only class he teaches where students request the pass/no pass option.
Senator
Johnson stated that in the
The
question was called and the motion carried with 28 in favor and 7 opposed.
Executive session:
The candidate for honorary degree
was presented by Interim Dean of the
Dean of the
General (open) Session resumed
Good and welfare:
Chair Knowles announced that
the General
The information will be put on the web site in advance. Many of our distinguished colleagues have
worked on the Task Force. Senators
should talk to their constituencies about the information.
Senator Crepeau shared a
comment made by Regent Mercer at
Senator Judd announced that
Senator Mueller announced
that the Mansfield
The meeting was adjourned at