ASCRC Minutes 2/27/07


Members Present: A. Szalda-Petree, B. Bach, I. Crummy, L. Economides, J. Eglin, L. Hamilton, J. Luckowski, K. Nalty, T. Ness, A. Tabibnejad, H. Thompson, P. Silverman

Members Absent/Excused: V. Hedquist, C. Henderson, J. Graham, L. Tangedahl, A. Walker-Andrews


Ex-Officio Present: M. Hoell D. Micus

Guest: Audrey Peterson, Chair, Curriculum and Instruction, G.G. Weix


Chair Szalda-Petree called the meeting to order at 2:10 p.m.

The 2/20/07 minutes was approved as corrected.    


Student members were welcomed to the committee.

Guests are scheduled for the next two weeks to discuss the impact of the general education model on programs.   Next week the chair of the Writing Committee will also discuss the revised writing criteria document sent to the committee electronically. 

Unfinished Business

General Education model discussion

  • Elementary Education
    Guest: Audrey Peterson, Chair, Curriculum and Instruction

    The elementary education curriculum is crafted to meet three sets of requirements
    (University, State licensure, and NCATE accreditation). The degree is a total of 128 credits and allows one elective if students meet their First Aid/CPA requirement outside of the university. The curriculum is very tight, and unless students declare the major in their freshmen year it will take longer than 4 years. It includes a concentration area that allows students to explore an area in depth than then breadth like required survey courses.

    The department has identified classroom management learning as a weakness in the program and will likely be increasing these requirements. There are other state requirement changes pending such as "Indian Education for All" and a concentrated generation poverty addition to the teaching reading component.

    The draft model would require an additional 8 credits of the major. Currently the expressive arts requirement is met by Art 314 that also meets a major requirement. The major does not have space for a non-English language course (5 cr). It currently satisfies the symbolic systems requirement with courses required for the major (Math 130/131).

    If the draft model was implemented the program would have to look at the credits in the concentration areas. The concentrations expose students to upper-division course work in a discipline and have been particularly useful for teachers that take positions at middle schools.
  • Chemistry (handout)

    The three credit limit is a problem for a 2-credit lab. The provision exempting expressive arts and science labs previously discussed will likely solve the problem.

    Chemistry's analysis was done using the assumption that the department specified diversity and ethics requirement could be covered through double dipping with courses that meet other perspectives and major requirements.

    Several options were evaluated. Most are right up to the max for required credits and have only 1 or 2 elective credits. The Forensic Chemistry option was at 121 credits and will eventually seek accreditation that would likely require additional credits. Other programs include sections on genetics and evolution.

    Science majors have stacking pre-requisites that are not flexible. Adding additional requirements to these majors would be onerous on students and impact the programs ability to attract and retain students.

    General discussion of General Education
    Several alternatives were explored. Such as having a two-track BA/BS general education system with a contingency plan for students who change majors. Another suggestion was to encourage MCLL to offer 4 credit first-year language courses and keep the current foreign language/symbolic systems requirement. These would reduce the credit differential and may make the foreign language option more attractive to students.


Holly Thompson was nominated and unanimously approved as chair-elect.

Curriculum Follow up:
MED/SUR 195, Ethics in Health Professions, a summer experimental course was approved for a one-time-only ethics designation

The subcommittees are still reviewing the revised proposal for a Certificate in Multicultural Awareness. One of the subcommittee members suggested that ASCRC develop a policy that can be used as a guide for considering certificates.   The Board of Regents only approves certificates that are 30 credits or more.   According to BOR Policy 301.1 a certificate is awarded after successful completion of entry-level programs, a specialty, and/or upgrading skills or knowledge within an occupation.  Usually certificate programs are no more than 60 semester hours in length.

Repeat Fee

There was further discussion regarding the repeat fee.  Most universities leave the grades from the course repeated on the transcript, but use the new grade to generate the GPA. The student members agree that the cost of retaking the course is enough of a deterrent. The committee explored establishing a threshold of when retaking a course was appropriate, such as, "courses are repeatable only if a student receives a grade lower than a "C" (2.0 quality points).  Also considered was limiting the number of times a course could be retaken.   There was concern that setting policy may complicate the issue. 


New Business:   

A workgroup was assigned to develop a policy on certificates.  Members include Professors Weix and Silverman and student member Nalty. 


The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.