March 4, 2009

Graduate Council Meeting Minutes

March 4, 2009

GBB 202, 12:10-1:00 p.m.

Members Present: C. Anderson, R. Bolton, L. Frey, T. Herron, J. Hirstein, M. McGuirl, N. Moisey, M. Moore, G. Quintero, G. Stanley, C. VonReichert, C. Watson, C. Winkler

Members Absent/Excused: Associate Provost Brown, D. McNamer

Ex-officio members Present:

The meeting was called to order at 12:15 p.m.

The 2/25/09 minutes were amended and approved.


  • The Bertha Morton deadline is Thursday. The Graduate School should have the applications posted to Blackboard early next week. It would be helpful to know how many awards are available. Chair Moisey will ask Associate Provost Brown. Last year the Council revised the procedures to reduce the workload. The applications that had mid-range scores were re-reviewed by a workgroup that included a member from each subcommittee.

    The procedures will need to be clarified next week in terms of timeline and how the ranks will be sorted.

Business Items:

  • The letter stating the Council's concerns and recommendations regarding CS 595 Preparing for Statistics was approved.
  • Consideration of the Communicative Sciences and Disorder curriculum changes was postponed.
  • Voting on the proposed admission standards for Resource Conservation, Forestry and Recreation Management was postponed because Council members did not have the opportunity to review the proposal. The Science Subcommittee recommends approval. It had concerns regarding the legality of having different standards for international students. According to UM Legal Council this is an acceptable practice.
  • The Dual-listing workgroup recommends that graduate standards be revised to exclude 300-level courses from fulfilling coursework for advanced degrees (Master's and PhD). It suggests that a current 300 UG courses either remove the UG designation or be re-numbered to the 400 level.

    The History Department does not differentiate between 300 and 400 level courses and currently has 65 300 UG courses. If all its UG courses were transitioned to 400, then it would not have any 300 level courses. The number of UG courses is a reflection of the size of the program. The Department does not have enough faculty to offer separate 500 level courses. The program should take a look at what courses graduate students are taking. A possible alternative would be for graduate students to take Independent Study.

    Most disciplines have a clear progression between course levels and students have different expectations. Current policy is that graduate students can only count 6 credits of 300 UG coursework. Most graduate programs researched by the workgroup did not allow 300 level courses count towards masters degrees.

The meeting was adjourned at 1:05 p.m.