09:01:41 From Fiona Soper to Emma Hauser(Direct Message):
	Maybe we could do a straw poll today and ask people who would have direct access to analytical facilities for wood?
09:01:50 From Fiona Soper to Emma Hauser(Direct Message):
	To get a sense of the proportion?
09:02:55 From Emma Hauser to Fiona Soper(Direct Message):
	I think that would be a good idea. It would be helpful to know how many people have access to analytical facilities and how many people would need to send sample somewhere.
09:03:01 From cory.cleveland to Emma Hauser(Direct Message):
	Co host please
09:43:06 From Rich Phillips (he/him) to Everyone:
	True, though the grinding and weighing will take up the most tech time
09:44:22 From James Dalling to Everyone:
	Grinding is pretty fast with a bead beater - there are machines that do 96 samples at once. Weighing is super slow.
09:45:07 From Rich Phillips (he/him) to Everyone:
	@Jim, does bead beating work well with wood (homogenize)?
09:45:41 From James Dalling to Everyone:
	Yeah - some spp need to be repeatedly beaten! We use steel eppendorf style tubes with steel ball bearings
09:45:43 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	Totally agreed, Rich. I’d sort of assumed that each lab would do the prepping (grinding and foil balling).
09:45:53 From Brooke Osborne (she/her) to Everyone:
	It may also be useful to think about what we’d like to set up now in terms of centralized sample analysis to make life easier down the road for running other sample types as well.
09:48:05 From Robert Buchkowski to Everyone:
	There might be a bulk sample cost discount if the network procures the entire sample set and then divides the bill.
09:48:30 From Rich Phillips (he/him) to Everyone:
	@Steve, doesn’t OSU have a commercial soil/tissue lab?
09:48:52 From Steve Perakis to Everyone:
	I wouldn't suggest it …
09:50:28 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	Kudos to the EA salespeople who have convinced all of us to spend 50K on machines that we’d still prefer not use because they’re such a pain 🙂
09:51:04 From Amy Wolf to Everyone:
	Replying to "Kudos to the EA sale..."
	
	I have been putting off an EA purchase for just this reason!
09:51:23 From Fiona Soper to Everyone:
	Replying to "Kudos to the EA sale..."
	
	Nope nope nope
09:51:30 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	Replying to "Kudos to the EA sale..."
	
	Seems like you should maybe stay the course, Amy
09:52:21 From Josh Fisher to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Kudos to the EA sale..." with 😃
09:52:44 From Fiona Soper to Everyone:
	I don’t see total P as an option at UC Davis
09:53:32 From Rich Phillips (he/him) to Everyone:
	Some places shotguns cannot be discharged (near public areas)
09:54:03 From Meghan Midgley (she/her) to Everyone:
	I've been digesting samples in-house and analyzing elemental composition on ICPs at Northwestern. Different and more complicated transit situation than CN, but do-able.
09:54:18 From Robert Buchkowski to Everyone:
	Can we set the protocol for leaf sampling now as an appendix and let people decide if they prefer to get both at once?
09:54:46 From Francis Brearley to Everyone:
	Agreed!
09:55:21 From Rich Phillips (he/him) to Everyone:
	The time of year will be hugely important (for leaves), though certainly not insurmountable
09:55:53 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	Replying to "Can we set the proto..."
	
	Yep, I agree with Robert. Don’t make leaf sampling a barrier to entry, but set the protocol from the outset
09:56:29 From Tom Bytnerowicz to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Yep, I agree with Ro..." with 👍
09:56:47 From Brooke Osborne (she/her) to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Kudos to the EA sale..." with 😂
09:57:19 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	And roots!
09:57:20 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	🙂
09:57:30 From Tom Bytnerowicz to Everyone:
	Nodules for N fixers?
09:57:33 From Tom Bytnerowicz to Everyone:
	haha
09:57:41 From Benton Taylor to Everyone:
	Mycorrhizal hyphae???
09:57:49 From Tom Bytnerowicz to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Mycorrhizal hyphae??..." with 👍
09:57:58 From James Dalling to Everyone:
	endohyphal bacteria
09:58:02 From Fiona Soper to Everyone:
	Litter! Reproductive tissues!
09:58:14 From Brooke Osborne (she/her) to Everyone:
	Haha the most slippery slope
09:58:31 From Duncan Menge (he/him) to Everyone:
	Make sure to divide reproductive tissues into shade and sun.
09:58:55 From Brooke Osborne (she/her) to Everyone:
	Probably will want remotely sensed foliar data too while we are at it
09:58:57 From Luke McCormack to Everyone:
	Pérez-Harguindeguy-2013-New plant trait handbook
09:59:06 From Fiona Soper to Everyone:
	And individual floral parts obviously
09:59:15 From Luke McCormack to Everyone:
	Root traits are pretty much ignored in that handbook
09:59:17 From Aaron Hogan to Everyone:
	Corneillesen?
09:59:33 From Luke McCormack to Everyone:
	But see update from Freshet handbook for root traits
09:59:39 From Rich Phillips (he/him) to Everyone:
	Reacted to "But see update from ..." with 👍
09:59:43 From Fiona Soper to Everyone:
	Reacted to "But see update from ..." with ❤️
09:59:54 From Luke McCormack to Everyone:
	Pérez-Harguindeguy-2013-New plant trait handbook;  this is the update from Corneillesen
09:59:58 From Brooke Osborne (she/her) to Everyone:
	Thanks all!
10:00:00 From Aaron Hogan to Everyone:
	https://www.publish.csiro.au/bt/BT02124