UM students from Libby split on verdict
MISSOULA (May 18, 2009) – Not guilty.
To Danielle Bundrock, a University of Montana senior, the verdicts sounded a lot like, “No justice.”
The pain at the center of the W.R Grace trial is fresh for her. Her step-grandpa died on Easter in Libby from lung cancer due to asbestos exposure. Another 13 members of her family are diagnosed with asbestos-related disease. None of them worked at the vermiculite mine at the center of allegations of corporate wrongdoing.
“This is really disappointing,” said Bundrock when she heard that W.R Grace and three of its executives had been acquitted on May 9 of all eight criminal charges filed against them. The charges included conspiracy, Clean Air Act violations, and obstruction of justice. “It would have been a lot better if I had heard it went the other way. Someone has to be to blame for all the hurt that has happened to the people of Libby.”
Bundrock takes some sollace in the tears shed by some jurors as the verdict was read. They too, must have felt that Grace was accountable, she said, but must not have been shown the evidence they needed for a conviction.
About 120 students from Lincoln County attended the University of Montana during the three months W.R. Grace trial was underway a mile from campus. According to the registrar’s office, most come from Libby, Troy and Eureka. And while they traveled the same roads to reach Missoula, they are not of one mind about the the verdict in the Grace trial.
UM senior and Libby native Brittney Larson, whose father has asbestosis from playing on baseball fields contaminated with asbestos as a child, agreed with Bundrock that justice was not served.
“I think I knew from the very beginning by reading stories about Judge Molloy’ s reactions to a lot of things, and his restrictions to a lot of things that it wasn’t going to be a good trial,” Larson said.
The acquittal seemed to be the product of legal restrictions such as the statute of limitations, which only allowed evidence prior to 1999 for the conspiracy count. Grace’s corporate power, and a weak case presented by the prosecution, also seemed to work against a conviction, Larson said.
Laws and trial rules are what set America apart, said Vance Vincent.
“As far as justice goes I’m happy because (a guilty verdict) would have showed our system is screwed – that it’s guilty until proven innocent – and that’s not how it goes,” Vincent said.
Vincent, a Libby native and UM senior in environmental studies, said he felt the verdict was fair because the prosecution “could not prove without a shadow of a doubt” that Grace was conspiring to keep health concerns a secret. Although the asbestos-related deaths in Libby are awful, “emotions cannot drive guilty, not-guilty,” Vincent added.
Vincent said that his father Bruce Vincent, founder and owner of Environomics, an environmental consulting firm based in Libby, was friends with Alan Stringer, Libby’s deceased mine manager who also faced criminal charges, and felt that Stringer was discovering the health risks of Libby’s vermiculite at the same rate as the rest of Libby. Stringer wouldn’t have hid the health risks of asbestos, especially because his children’s school yards were filled with the contaminated vermiculite, Vincent said.
Kyle Nelson, a third year UM environmental law student and Libby native, also felt that the verdict was fair. Nelson is also a legal intern with the Missoula office of Browning, Kaleczyc Berry & Hoven, the firm that provided local counsel to defendant Robert Walsh, although Nelson was not involved in the case.
While some people have claimed that power and money influenced the verdict, Nelson thinks differently.
“This is a jury of Montanans who listened to all of the evidence,” Nelson said, adding that many people assume Grace should have been guilty based on an “incomplete story,” but that the jury got the “full story” and determined they weren’t guilty.
It’s also important to remember that this wasn’t a murder trial, he added.
The prosecution might have had more success in civil instead of criminal court because of the difficulty of this case, Nelson said. For example, it’s much easier to see that a robber is guilty because you can catch him in the house, but proving that a company knowingly released harmful chemicals into a community is less straight forward and much harder to prove, he said.
Lee Mickelson, a UM senior and Libby native, said he didn’t know if justice was served or not.
“I realize it is very difficult to prove conspiracy and frankly I’m not sure if they were really ‘knowingly’ harming the town,” Mickelson said. “But I think the reason so many of us react negatively to the verdict is it makes it seem like anyone can cause an environmental disaster, but with enough money can buy themselves out of responsibility.
“Did they commit a conspiracy to harm the town? Probably not, but they did make a lot of money making a big mess and putting a lot of people at risk. I think a lot of people were looking to the case as a way of saying ‘You can’t just go around sh—ing on people!’ and the acquittal obviously dashed that to the ground.”
Some worry that the not-guilty verdict will affect health care provided for those with asbestos-related disease.
“In the long term its going to slow down any recovery these people can get,” said Mike Shilling, a UM junior from Libby. “All they can give people (affected by asbestos) is an oxygen bottle, and that’s now.”
Shilling said that with the not-guilty verdict “it’s hard to imagine how it can get worse.”
“I guess there’s going to be no improvement, which is unfortunate,” he added.
Others are concerned that this verdict will negatively affect any future civil charges.
“This is going to affect any civil proceedings now because they will be able to reference that there was no criminal or malicious action committed,” said Necia Wayland-Smith, a UM senior from Libby. “It’s hard to swallow.”
Some are looking at the verdict in relation to their jobs in Libby.
Regardless of the verdict, Libby’s asbestos contamination will “continue to be dealt with for many years to come — it’s not just a problem for folks who were there back when the mine was up and running,” said Pete Mason, a UM graduate and Libby native who works as a wildland firefighter in Libby during the summer.
Mason said that an example of these long-term affects is a 33,000 acre plot of land in Libby that is off limits to fire crews if a fire is burning because it is a health hazard. Many of the trees around the mine are being tested because they have asbestos-laced dust lodged into their tree bark, he added.
Lauren Gautreaux, a UM graduate from Libby who also worked for the town’s Center for Asbestos Related Disease, said that whether Grace knowingly endangered people’s lives or not “they were still pretty responsible for what happened” and shouldn’t have “sidestepped” the issue like they did.
“The town as a whole feels kind of defeated,” Gautreaux said. “It was one thing the whole town sort of stood against.”
However, many still aren’t accepting the verdict as a defeat.
“I feel like we have a lot of support, especially from our senators and representatives,” Larson said. “Hopefully this trial will open more people’s eyes and more people will research it and learn about it and help us fight.”
– Carmen George
(Posted May 19)
Posted: May 19th, 2009 under News, Uncategorized.
Tags: Bundrock, Gautreaux, George, Reaction, Shilling, UM, Vincent, Wayland-Smith
Comments
Comment from Duane J. Williams, KLCB-KTNY, Libby
Time May 20, 2009 at 6:33 am
Carmen…Nice job, well written piece. djw
Comment from Gerry Heard of Libby
Time May 20, 2009 at 9:58 am
I have to agree with Duane – Kudos to Carmen on a well written , well balanced piece of journalism. I’m unclear on what the addition Mike is inferring to, but lately several of his comments have made little sense.
Comment from Terry Trent
Time May 20, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Gerry,
“Unreal ignorance” and “Libby is not safe never will be”, makes perfect sense to me. Morever, it is correct. Mike must be channeling, if one believes in such things, because what he says in regards to provable science is correct. I wonder where he gets it all? The other stuff, I have no idea? But he is certainly passionate.
Incidentally, it was just yesterday that I saw some mathmatics from Gerry Henningsen, which support “Libby is not safe never will be”…..although, I don’t believe Gerry had that in mind when he presented his math. Ask yourselves, whose job was it to know this, to tell the people and when did they know it? Then ask “who all did they not tell”?
Best,
Terry
Comment from Gerry Heard of Libby
Time May 20, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Terry – We just got to get real here. Using Mikes logic just replace the word “libby” in the following statement and it applies everywhere. Try it. “add a noun” is not safe never will be. It gets real fun when you add words that make no sense. Try Car, Sacramento,Home, Etc. You get the picture. All of us in Libby know there is a problem, and until some one other that the EPA comes along and helps – we get what we get. As far as Mike being right – he has not been yet.
As far as Dr Henningsen’s presentation – apply the same metric- to any correlating data set and the same results will happen – just in a longer (or in some cases) shorter time frame..) In others words, (and Im going for simplicity here), if a thousand people use their seat belts and a certain percent get in an accident and die – the same number of people who dont use their seat belts and get in an accident will die as well. The correlating factor is death – not if they had their seat belt on or not. Apply it over time and its going to be more or less than the average. As far as the “unreal the ignorance” statement – it takes all forms it deify individual logic. If mike does not want to believe in a solution – thats on him.
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 20, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Jerry/Peter/whatever/ The ONLY solution to this dilema IS to keep human beings away from Libby Mt. not by selling/telling then Libby is safe. Tell them the truth and the solution will solve itself. I don’t know anyone who would put their entire family in danger specially when it is beyond evident that people of Libby Mt do not die a natural death and you all suffer together from the same thing cause by the same murderers WR disGrace…and Govt.. And Libby is for sale today…One can always downplay this deadly exposure just as you do and EPA and many others do but at the end of each day, you all together are exposed to asbestos. It is a human shame that you all have to kill more people where I tell all to stay the hell away from Libby. Again, I save people by telling the truth. What do you do Jerry/Gary/Peter/Dick/??? You have a identity problem maybe? Not runnin from the law are yah? Every Tree in and around Libby has millions of Tremolite fibers in the bark. U of M will tell you this. IF the trees are not dealt with, again Libby will never be safe to anything that breathe. I don’t know why I care anymore but some peoples stupidity brings out the best in me because I know the truth.
Comment from Gerry Heard of Libby
Time May 20, 2009 at 1:58 pm
see what I mean…
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 20, 2009 at 3:56 pm
See what I mean!!!! Stay away from Libby Mt…
Comment from Terry Trent
Time May 20, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Gerry – Well, I know I know, anything can kill you. It is just that Tremolite death is a very slow and painful death. Avoidable at all costs. Imposed death not accidental death. And I would agree regarding a person’s possibility/probability if it weren’t for all those other darn lung disorders that devastate a persons ability to involve themselves in life, even if it isn’t going to kill them.
Anyway, it isn’t just Gerry Heningsen, the science from a hundred epidemics dictate that leaving Libby is a really good idea. The Australians left their town completely empty, and wisely so. The South Africans are still trying to straighten matters up after 50 years of trying. You guys are only in to it 10 years now, things will get very interesting in the next 50 or so years.
Best,
Terry
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 20, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Can the students involved with this miscarrage of Justice in letting the murderers go free, can you put on your site what you all got out of this. As future law and journal people, many want to know what you learned, what you would do different, what you think,etc etc.Did you all have a term paper to turn in? Can we read them? Let us know and thank you very much for all you have done and for why…
Comment from Gerry Heard
Time May 26, 2009 at 10:19 am
W.R. Grace and some of the company’s former executives were acquitted from the charges that they knowingly endangered residents of Libby and concealing the health effects of its asbestos mining operation. Certainly, the operative word is knowingly and there are those in Libby who say the miners knew the stuff wasn’t any good for them, but they made a good living. There are others who say W.R. Grace should have told them, if they knew, but the jury determined they did not know.
Studies have determined that asbestos exposure can cause life-threatening illness and health studies on the individuals who worked at the mine or lived in Libby during the years the mine was operating show a significant increase in asbestos-related diseases. However, to suggest to the outside world that over 2,000 individuals in Libby, which has a population of less than 10,000, are near death’s door is simply journalistic hyperbole. The media gobbled up the story and the pictures of hundreds of handmade wooden crosses in the Libby cemetery that were said to represent individuals who died from exposure to asbestos. The crosses were made and activists who believed the deaths were from asbestos wrote the names on them. Andrew Schneider, a senior national correspondent for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer at the time, published a book with editor David McCumber as a result of his journalistic investigations in Libby during the time Gov. Judy Martz used her one silver bullet to make Libby a Superfund site. In the book, “An Air That Kills, How the Asbestos Poisoning of Libby, Montana, Uncovered a National Scandal,” Schneider set the benchmark for journalists writing about W.R. Grace and Libby with his blatant depiction of Libby residents “walking to the post office with slow, shuffling steps, rolling what’s left of their lives beside them in green tanks.” In actuality, except for those suffering from actual life-threatening illness, such as lung cancer, mesothelioma, and asbestosis, visitors to Libby would be hard pressed to identify the rest of the 2,000 who have been labeled with an asbestos-related disease. Asbestos screenings conducted by the Agency for Toxic Substance and Disease Registry and the Montana Asbestos Screening and Surveillance Activities from 2000 through 2008 consisted of computerized interviews, chest x-rays and pulmonary function tests. B-Readers, specially trained radiologists and pulmonologists determined from these screenings of more than 7,000 individuals who did or did not have ARD. The majority of identified abnormalities were pleural plaques. Medical professionals explain that a pleural plaque is similar to a callus like those formed around a sliver. Asbestos fibers lodged in the pleural lining of the lung cause such a callus to form. Pleural plaques do not turn into asbestosis and most people will die from another cause long before the plaques could cause serious medical problems. When individuals say that they and numerous members of their family have “it,” they probably mean that they have pleural plaques. A visitor to Libby will find the residents going about their daily lives in the same manner as those in other small Montana towns. Some of those who say W.R. Grace should have warned them about the dangers of working at the mine continue to smoke despite the warnings of the surgeon general and the brochures warning them that smoking increases the chance of an ARD to result in cancer by over 90 percent. Zonolite, the name of the mine before W.R. Grace bought it, began operating in 1939. As most of us over the age of 70 hate to admit, most of us smoked in those years and maybe some of the senior citizens of Libby pulling green tanks also have emphysema and COPD. Health-care services, such as the Center for Asbestos Related Disease and the work of the Environmental Protection Agency, may have boosted the economy of Lincoln County, but W.R. Grace has also spent vast sums of money on cleanup and health care.
Certainly, despite the jury’s decision to acquit the huge corporation of criminal conduct, a responsibility for the conditions in Libby must be assigned to W.R. Grace and certainly, despite the assumption that individuals are dying in the streets of Libby from asbestos-related disease, journalists have a responsibility to bring factual reports of the tragedy to the outside world.
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 26, 2009 at 12:34 pm
As Dumber as dumber gets. Man are you a prime example of heartless. One can only hope it be you, on the end of a very short air hose and your wheel chair battery goes dead while you are trying to reach the top of the hill only to fall backwards because Gerry, there are OVER 2000 people sick/dying and dead and more on the way. It is ignorant fools like you and all the rest who care less about any of those who have and continue to move to Libby since 1999. But it is all yours Peter, because you all deserve Libby with every breathe you take. Shame the children have to suffer because of ignorants like you. I will always tell all who will listen to stay away from Libby. What you should be saying Gary…
Comment from Gerry Heard
Time May 26, 2009 at 12:55 pm
pot – kettle , kettle , meet pot.
Oh by the way I forgot to credit the article:
Carol Holoboff is a registered nurse who worked for the Agency for Toxic Substance and Disease Registry in Libby and served as coordinator of the Montana Asbestos Screening and Surveillance Activities. She contributes to Healthy Montana and writes a monthly column for The Western News.
Who’s fooling who – Mike.
Comment from Terry Trent
Time May 28, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Somebody interview the jury members. Let them speak for themselves. I doubt they “determined Grace did not know”. Grace knew plenty of some, and nothing of other, and the plenty and nothing both came very slowly over the years. The only people in a position to know almost all, and sooner rather than later, were the Old Public Health Agency and EPA. They even had the statistics that Dr. Whithouse is developing from a previous European epidemic, which was common knowledge in the scientific community. Ask the Jury, let them speak for themselves why they did what did.
TT
Comment from Terry Trent
Time May 28, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Gerry – the “history” misses some fairly important recent events. The “living with vermiculite brochure” for one, the denial of Public Health Emergency for another. The lack of a health risk determination from ATSDR which was promised by Jill Dyken years ago (which of course, I only await so I can have a good laugh). The refusal to remove the vermiculite from home walls and basements and the ensuing “management in place” program (which is also a very good laugh). The firing of Dr. Chris Weis and his rehire. ATSDR running away from town meetings, EPA attempting to populate the CAG and TAG with ringers. EPA’s success at populating the SAB with ringers. The very recent determinations that Libby is safe based upon ambient air monitoring. Senator Baucus finally waking up and insulting EPA in local newspapers and carrying it all the way to the Senate Health Committee Statement which continued to detail basically criminal actions of EPA in Libby. (I am certain I do not remember half of it all at the moment but the above is plenty). And, history can not be written until the Libby mesotheliomas that will occur over the greater part of the next 100 years, are complete…..and it will take at least 20 years to determine if EPA’s clean up has had any impact at all (such clean ups have never worked anywhere else in the world and it isn’t as if EPA has developed new and exceptional methods in Libby. To the contrary. It appears EPA has not been able to control their subcontractors).
Continued below
Terry
Comment from Terry Trent
Time May 28, 2009 at 2:31 pm
If I agreed with everyone in Libby as to what WR Grace had done, and I agreed that it was all criminal……it would not measure up to even 1% of what EPA/ATSDR has done across our United States on this subject. This of course does not relieve WR Grace of much responsibility…but it does tell me that EPA, Andrew Schneider et al lead a figurative lynch mob against the very least of Libby’s problems. Had EPA not stopped “real” asbestos scientists from coming to town, maybe the townspeople of Libby could have developed a perspective that allowed them to address the real problems, related to the real history of what has actually occurred.
Terry
Comment from Gerry Heard of Libby
Time May 28, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Terry – I want to premises this first by saying I don’t speak for all of Libby. David L and a few others can contradict or validate my upcoming statements one way or the other. End of the day – very few of us really care. A collective sigh of relief was felt in town after the verdicts were read. It’s not if you agreed or disagreed, the bigger fact was that it is over. You can still find a few people who have an opinion one way or another, but for the most part a hush has descended on Libby. Going down to the VFW hall the talk of the old men is when they were working at the mine and in the mill that was the best times of their life’s. They all know someone who is effected by this, (after all its a small town), but thats life. Asbestos exposure has effected most of the people in Libby, but they modified their life and moved forward. Just what I would expect from any community or individual when faced with change. As far as The EPA – they provide most of the entertainment value in Libby. A day does not go by when I don’t hear someone saying ” hey – did you see old so and so with the EPA – what a dumb S**T. Its very entertaining. As far as the “real” asbestos issue – have at it. Its no longer Libby. We may have been the pond the rock was thrown into – but the ripples are way out of our sight
Comment from Terry Trent
Time May 28, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Yeah, me too in a way. Moving on to other aspects of life. The trial brought me back out for a moment, I had been traveling the world and preferred it to sparring and sniping with idiots. But the trial represented an opportunity for change.
Still, it sounds like in coming years you will be reminded from time to time when you read the newspaper and find yet another person you knew or knew of, died prematurely. Oh yeah, forgot, they will get steadily younger too. Anyway, best to ignore it, there is certainly nothing that can be done.
TT
Comment from Gerry Heard of Libby
Time May 29, 2009 at 9:23 am
so true… It reminds me of a Jimmy Buffett song about Hurricane Katrina, it applies to Libby as well:
If a hurricane doesn’t leave you dead
It will make you strong
Don’t try to explain just nod your head
Breathe in breathe out move on
According to my watch the time is now
The past is dead and gone
Don’t try to shake it just nod your head
Breathe in breathe out move on
Don’t try to explain it just bow your head
Breathe in breathe out move on
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 29, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Oh but breathe in breathe out in Libby Mt will ALWAYS mean deadly exposure to Tremolite asbestos. To move on is to stop the deadly continued exposure. Give ALL the people of Libby the opportunity and means to leave Libby…they will. To move on is to move out and stay out. AND not allow any more human beings to move in. THIS IS the ONLY way to end/stop this deadly exposure to more human beings. Sure the hell ain’t selling Libby as safe. Who the hell cares anyway huh. Someone has to give a crap about them meaning those being lied to that Libby is safe. I have and I will continue but where is everyone else?? Who cares huh!!!
Comment from Gerry Heard of Libby
Time May 29, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Ao what happened to your big plan here mike, This is from another web site that you post more of your FUD on ( from Mike) :
I would like to inform you all that with the best of my ability and with each breathe I take till death that after the WR Grace trial I will no longer be the voice I have been since 1990 with concerns of health and safety to the people from exposure to Tremolite.I truly believe I have served my propose in my life and Libby Mt since learning the truth to why we are sick and dying in Libby.My life and friends in Libby forever will remain my friends and all things good will enrich my days of yesterdays of times and moments and people who have become a part of my life in all the ways of life.Libby has given me a very blessed life and then Libby has ended my life in hell.My peace will be death and my life is what it is and shall be for what I have left behind for those we leave behind.I have made a difference and saved many from the truth.This will continue long after I am gone and you who I leave behind will carry on…with me in mind.This new Administration with new EPA/DEQ/DOJ/etc etc will settle Libby once and for all with human beings being the issue to protect.My concerns will be dealt with as I am sending ALL MY STUFF to the TEAM who will address Libby.My job will be done my friends and 20 years of Libby is enough for me.I will not say the last of me will not be my last like in obituary but my fight for Libby will end.A book or Documentary,etc who knows but I just wanted to let you know where I stand and where I will be.For those who care.What a road this life has been and I hope this road continues for the sake of those we leave behind…for what all that’s worth.Take care and God Bless all of you and Thanks for caring too…………. Sincerely and Caring Mike Crill and Family
…take your own advice.
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 29, 2009 at 11:31 pm
I believed in the out come of the truth being told that YES WR Grace IS GUILTY of knowingly killing me and my family and Libby.I am NOT the only one asshole who was let down/screwed/denied/etc etc.Let down is putting it mildly because what should and needs to happen is a different kind of Justice be it on Earth or in Hell. I do have to admit, not to you AH because you and the others do not matter and if Libby can’t grow balls and stand on their own two feet and live with the lies that continue to kill more people. I am trying to leave all you AH of ignorance and I will but nothing happens over nite when 20 years of your life has been what I am trying to leave.Murder/Lies/Corruption/you name it and Libby has it and you all deserve it. But for God sakes, Please do not include others to Libby air UNTIL it is safe. To do different, innocent people are going to suffer till death. I care because I am one and so are 2000 plus in Libby. It is time for Libby to stand tall and stop killing more people knowingly as I began screaming in 1999, when EPA and Libby began selling more murder to anyone they did/do lie to.Libby is still being sold to murder because Libby is not safe. Got to admit, I am sincere about having a life and I will, I promise but such ignorance does hurt when you and I know the truth for which I tell the truth and you do not. I sleep rather well but I sure don’t know how most of you can even look at each other in Libby even if many of you are in the same bed. You too breathe the air that kills so you ain’t being left out. I kinda like that idea too… eye for eye breathe for breathe asbestos inhaled asbestos death…How bout a thank you before I leave even if it means you are wrong…Never mind unless you truly mean it…
Comment from Carmen George
Time June 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Hi Mike,
Thank you for the kind words. My apologies for the delay in getting back to you, I’d be happy to share some of my thoughts.
Regarding your earlier question, my greatest motivation for being apart of this project was for people like you, so those affected by Libby’s asbestos around the country could sit in that courtroom with me. The priority was always reporting accurate, factual stories, the play-by-play of the courtroom, in hopes that I could give people that seat. My heart goes out to you, your family, and everyone affected by asbestos-related disease. My greatest hope is that this verdict is not misinterpreted to mean that suddenly there isn’t a health problem in Libby. People still need health care assistance, the CARD clinic, clean-up work, and so much more.
This project has reaffirmed for me the importance of putting PEOPLE at the core of any story, whether it’s reporting law or a community event. People create the formalities of the courtroom, people write legal documents, present exhibits, examine witnesses, are witnesses, observe the trial. Our stories need to use this information to illuminate people, not the other way around. It’s easy to forget that when you’re sitting in a courtroom absorbed with legal formalities and procedure. The greatest difficulty I faced was trying to bring that human element into writing framed in a formal, legal environment.
I am glad there was so many of us reporting and Twittering on this, I felt that gave us a huge advantage regarding how much information we were able to provide the public. I am also proud of our team for the number of backgrounder stories we published. I’m glad we reported on the happenings of court, as well as reactions from people affected, legal analysis, asbestos researchers, and much more. However, even for the number of stories we did and the number of people we had writing about this case, there are hundreds more stories that could be written on this, and that we would have liked to write.
I learned so much regarding court reporting this semester, but more importantly, I learned so much about reporting on a serious, terrible issue that is affecting so many in our local community. My heart goes out to all affected by asbestos-related disease, and I am sincerely grateful for all that has been shared with me and our team these past few months. It will be interesting to see how the next chapter of this story unfolds itself.
Sincerely,
Carmen
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time June 21, 2009 at 12:01 am
And God Bless you Carmen and all who got to know me and the story/truth about something that was done to us and how they got away with murder. As a victim and a voice of a different tone in my fight and struggle to tell the truth to save people/families from what is killing me and thousands of others.How we as a human race can ignor human life being poisoned knowingly and do nothing to stop it nor warn us…yah,they got away with murder and so did many many more.Those same people are also the same killing and lieing today since 1999.I do hope they all hang for their lies at the hands of exposed people/families.No one has ever been protect nor told the truth no stopped from being poisoned. It all has continued. How is this allowed??With the Health Emergency NOW declared for Libby maybe that will tell the world to stay the hell away. What all you have done ALSO has and will continue to save thousands of people/families to the truth for which every human being has that right and need to know if something will kill you and your entire family. We were told in 1999. I truely enjoyed meeting my friends Will and sharing my story/concerns which everyone of you who woke up one day and walked into the life and times of Libby and the people, it is what you all have learned and what all you all got out of what is right and what is wrong that it is YOU ALL who will be writing again and sueing again 10 to 20 years from now when it is MY CHILDRENS generation/YOURS who will deal with this Holocaust that was done to us but we all have a purpose and that is to tell all who will listen the truth and to stay away from Libby Mt as long as it is a deadly place to breathe. I believe it will always be…..HELL. Take care and again,all of you…Thank you very much and what you do WILL save lives/people from a horrible way to suffer till death…I know you all will do fine…after all, none of you will EVER forget Libby/WRdisGrace/Mike Crill,etc etc. Tell all you can everyday to stay away from Libby Mt. How wonderful is that???? Saving human life…Thats what Mike Crill has fought for and I have save many and many many more.God Bless
Mike Crill and Family 2009
Comment from jonned
Time August 22, 2009 at 4:35 am
Gerry,
“Unreal ignorance” and “Libby is not safe never will be”, makes perfect sense to me. Morever, it is correct. Mike must be channeling, if one believes in such things, because what he says in regards to provable science is correct. I wonder where he gets it all? The other stuff, I have no idea? But he is certainly passionate.
Comment from Background Checks
Time September 4, 2009 at 1:11 am
Carmen, your article raises an interesting point. Although it is somewhat a dilemma to prove the conspiracy theory, the question is if there was intent to harm. That I think was a factor that helped split the student body.
Comment from Monica Ray
Time September 9, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Well written review of the trial, it’s unfortunate that no one will be held accountable for what happened to the Libby residents.
Comment from Steve Call
Time November 15, 2009 at 5:54 am
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Comment from Cheryl
Time December 7, 2009 at 8:17 am
I’m writing from Massachusetts, I just discovered in my cellar on friday, transite asbestos in the shower, vermiculite insulationin the attic waiting the test results, 9×9 floor tiles in the bedroom, 9×9 tiles in the bathroom, the public knows the grace co.is guilty of this. ch
Comment from Mike Crill Missoula,Mt
Time May 19, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Good example of people who believe there is no problem even in the face of sickness and death. I noticed the two from Libby who are future lawyer and govt employee, must be some criteria to get a job is to ignore the truth. Libby is not safe, never will be and so will the deadly exposure to who ever moves and breathes Libby’s deadly air. Unreal the ignorance…